Comments on: Leopard Delay - Hooray For Common Sense http://www.aelon.net/2007/04/leopard-delay-hooray-for-common-sense/ Random babblings from a few digitally inclined people Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:38:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Kelmon http://www.aelon.net/2007/04/leopard-delay-hooray-for-common-sense/#comment-2449 Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:36:10 +0000 http://www.aelon.net/2007/04/leopard-delay-hooray-for-common-sense/#comment-2449 In Reply to <a href="#comment-2444" rel="nofollow">#3</a>: In all honesty, I'm somewhat happy that the iPhone will get Leopard first. Given the issues that I had with early versions of Tiger I'm quite happy for someone else to test the OS first so that bugs can be knocked out before the Mac-version of it is released. Yeah, there will no doubt be application specific bugs still existing since the iPhone isn't a Mac but at least the kernel should have been well exercised by the time October comes around and that in itself may help. I should also note that the Apple community has been highly embarrassing of late with wacko predictions of early releases of Leopard (March, April and May had all been mooted) and now they're crying because the obvious has happened. A 4-month delay for something that was obviously going to happen since MacWorld? Get over it. In Reply to #3:

In all honesty, I’m somewhat happy that the iPhone will get Leopard first. Given the issues that I had with early versions of Tiger I’m quite happy for someone else to test the OS first so that bugs can be knocked out before the Mac-version of it is released. Yeah, there will no doubt be application specific bugs still existing since the iPhone isn’t a Mac but at least the kernel should have been well exercised by the time October comes around and that in itself may help.

I should also note that the Apple community has been highly embarrassing of late with wacko predictions of early releases of Leopard (March, April and May had all been mooted) and now they’re crying because the obvious has happened. A 4-month delay for something that was obviously going to happen since MacWorld? Get over it.

]]> by: jack http://www.aelon.net/2007/04/leopard-delay-hooray-for-common-sense/#comment-2445 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:24:29 +0000 http://www.aelon.net/2007/04/leopard-delay-hooray-for-common-sense/#comment-2445 I, for one, am glad. I mean... I've been waiting eagerly, but the one thing that had me worried about Apple over the last five or so years was the string of not-ready-for-primetime products they rolled out. I've had three laptops in a row that came with design flaws. Now I'm using a MacBook Pro, 2nd generation, and I love it. Not a single problem yet and fantastic performance. But I had to wait for it (after the first generation got over some major bugs). So Leopard is delayed... it's only four months not five years (like some other systems we know of... I'm looking at you, Vista). If it STILL comes out with bugs, then I'll worry. But I'm confident it will also dazzle, just as expected and then some. I, for one, am glad. I mean… I’ve been waiting eagerly, but the one thing that had me worried about Apple over the last five or so years was the string of not-ready-for-primetime products they rolled out. I’ve had three laptops in a row that came with design flaws.

Now I’m using a MacBook Pro, 2nd generation, and I love it. Not a single problem yet and fantastic performance. But I had to wait for it (after the first generation got over some major bugs).

So Leopard is delayed… it’s only four months not five years (like some other systems we know of… I’m looking at you, Vista). If it STILL comes out with bugs, then I’ll worry. But I’m confident it will also dazzle, just as expected and then some.

]]> by: Vermouth http://www.aelon.net/2007/04/leopard-delay-hooray-for-common-sense/#comment-2444 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:19:33 +0000 http://www.aelon.net/2007/04/leopard-delay-hooray-for-common-sense/#comment-2444 <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9016618&pageNumber=1" rel="nofollow">Apparently your common sense</a> puts you in the minority amongst Apple fans. I think this is really bad PR considering the FUD tactics Apple used to Bash Vista because of its delays while promoting themselves as a more stable OS developer. Hopefully they'll get it right but it's sort of a mess with regards to the zealots at the moment who are screaming for a pound of flesh from the iPhone. Apparently your common sense puts you in the minority amongst Apple fans. I think this is really bad PR considering the FUD tactics Apple used to Bash Vista because of its delays while promoting themselves as a more stable OS developer. Hopefully they’ll get it right but it’s sort of a mess with regards to the zealots at the moment who are screaming for a pound of flesh from the iPhone.

]]> by: Kelmon http://www.aelon.net/2007/04/leopard-delay-hooray-for-common-sense/#comment-2428 Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:49:04 +0000 http://www.aelon.net/2007/04/leopard-delay-hooray-for-common-sense/#comment-2428 This is by far and away the most disturbing aspect of Leopard's development - the almost totally absent news about it. With the other OS releases Apple has typically provided a Sneak Peak page when the OS has been announced with more details being added to it later. However, all we've had has been the Sneak Peak page, information that has come from analysis of the betas and total silence from Apple on the subject. When MacWorld rolled around we were expecting at least some comment on the subject but all we got was non-Mac related stuff beyond the news that the iPhone would be running Leopard - something it seems it will be doing long before the computers do. In fairness, as I wrote at the time, I don't think that Apple gained anything at the WWDC announcement of Leopard last year from the Vista-bashing with "the funny Frenchman". Apple doesn't really, however, have the same excuses as Vista when it comes to bugs. As people point out, Apple's environment is a closed one with fewer hardware variations and less software available so getting a good release out the door should be easier for them even with a smaller organisation. Regardless, I am much more confident now that Leopard will be right on Day 1 but I just wish that Apple had come clean about this a while back rather than sticking to the Spring release statement until almost the last minute. As a Public Relations exercise, no matter how they try to spin it, I don't think that they've done a good job on this one and they've no doubt annoyed a lot of loyal users. This is by far and away the most disturbing aspect of Leopard’s development - the almost totally absent news about it. With the other OS releases Apple has typically provided a Sneak Peak page when the OS has been announced with more details being added to it later. However, all we’ve had has been the Sneak Peak page, information that has come from analysis of the betas and total silence from Apple on the subject. When MacWorld rolled around we were expecting at least some comment on the subject but all we got was non-Mac related stuff beyond the news that the iPhone would be running Leopard - something it seems it will be doing long before the computers do.

In fairness, as I wrote at the time, I don’t think that Apple gained anything at the WWDC announcement of Leopard last year from the Vista-bashing with “the funny Frenchman”. Apple doesn’t really, however, have the same excuses as Vista when it comes to bugs. As people point out, Apple’s environment is a closed one with fewer hardware variations and less software available so getting a good release out the door should be easier for them even with a smaller organisation. Regardless, I am much more confident now that Leopard will be right on Day 1 but I just wish that Apple had come clean about this a while back rather than sticking to the Spring release statement until almost the last minute. As a Public Relations exercise, no matter how they try to spin it, I don’t think that they’ve done a good job on this one and they’ve no doubt annoyed a lot of loyal users.

]]> by: Cyrris http://www.aelon.net/2007/04/leopard-delay-hooray-for-common-sense/#comment-2425 Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:24:43 +0000 http://www.aelon.net/2007/04/leopard-delay-hooray-for-common-sense/#comment-2425 With all the Vista-bashing that occurred during the last keynote I watched, it would be terribly funny (for me, being a PC user, not you) if the Leopard release was plagued with countless problems like Vista was (and still sorta is) when it arrived. I actually have my copy of Vista ready to go (thankyou, MSDN) but I don't think I'll be touching it until Service Pack 1 is released. I was also intrigued with the original announcement of more secret Leopard features to come, and the fact that nothing further has been revealed has been pretty disappointing. With all the Vista-bashing that occurred during the last keynote I watched, it would be terribly funny (for me, being a PC user, not you) if the Leopard release was plagued with countless problems like Vista was (and still sorta is) when it arrived. I actually have my copy of Vista ready to go (thankyou, MSDN) but I don’t think I’ll be touching it until Service Pack 1 is released.

I was also intrigued with the original announcement of more secret Leopard features to come, and the fact that nothing further has been revealed has been pretty disappointing.

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