Comments on: IE7 Beta 2 - Getting Better http://www.aelon.net/2006/04/ie7-beta-2-getting-better/ Random babblings from a few digitally inclined people Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:48:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Kelmon http://www.aelon.net/2006/04/ie7-beta-2-getting-better/#comment-1920 Mon, 08 May 2006 07:59:40 +0000 http://www.aelon.net/2006/04/ie7-beta-2-getting-better/#comment-1920 In Reply to <a href="#comment-1918" rel="nofollow">#5</a>: As far as I am concerned it is "deeply flawed" because it missed the requirement. The requirement is that I don't want to have to enter <i>anything</i> when logging onto a web site that I have already submitted my logon details to. This includes having to select a username from a list already supplied since, 99.9% of the time, I will only ever supply the one. As far as I am concerned, I just want to hit Enter to logon when that logon screen is displayed; no moving of the mouse or additional typing. Every browser that I know of at the moment gets this right but for some odd reason IE decided to target that 0.1% scenario. This smacks as general laziness as it is clear that they just tacked username/password management on as a simple extension to AutoComplete. In Reply to #5: As far as I am concerned it is “deeply flawed” because it missed the requirement. The requirement is that I don’t want to have to enter anything when logging onto a web site that I have already submitted my logon details to. This includes having to select a username from a list already supplied since, 99.9% of the time, I will only ever supply the one. As far as I am concerned, I just want to hit Enter to logon when that logon screen is displayed; no moving of the mouse or additional typing. Every browser that I know of at the moment gets this right but for some odd reason IE decided to target that 0.1% scenario. This smacks as general laziness as it is clear that they just tacked username/password management on as a simple extension to AutoComplete.

]]> by: Cyrris http://www.aelon.net/2006/04/ie7-beta-2-getting-better/#comment-1918 Fri, 05 May 2006 08:19:36 +0000 http://www.aelon.net/2006/04/ie7-beta-2-getting-better/#comment-1918 That safari feature sounds pretty cool - but I don't recall any other browser having that, not just IE. I don't see why you would be entering the same information in IE for a login at the same site. All you do in IE7 (even back in IE6) is double-click the empty username box. A list of usernames you have used appears, and when you select one, it puts that in, with it's relevent password. You just need to press enter or hit the submit button and you're away. For me, it is just one extra finger action to what I already have to use in Firefox. I can see how you might think it is inferior, but I can't say it's "deeply flawed". That safari feature sounds pretty cool - but I don’t recall any other browser having that, not just IE.

I don’t see why you would be entering the same information in IE for a login at the same site. All you do in IE7 (even back in IE6) is double-click the empty username box. A list of usernames you have used appears, and when you select one, it puts that in, with it’s relevent password. You just need to press enter or hit the submit button and you’re away.

For me, it is just one extra finger action to what I already have to use in Firefox. I can see how you might think it is inferior, but I can’t say it’s “deeply flawed”.

]]> by: Kelmon http://www.aelon.net/2006/04/ie7-beta-2-getting-better/#comment-1917 Fri, 05 May 2006 08:00:36 +0000 http://www.aelon.net/2006/04/ie7-beta-2-getting-better/#comment-1917 In Reply to <a href="#comment-1916" rel="nofollow">#3</a>: I think it's safe to say that this is the exception rather than the rule and as such IE's implementation of username/password management is deeply flawed. I have logons for many web sites/services and for none of them do I have more than one logon so I am always entering the same information. To be honest, the AutoComplete functionality in of itself isn't very good when compared to Safari. In Safari it will completely populate a new form for you with past information as soon as you have entered a value it has seen before into one of the fields. Typically this is your first or full name and this triggers the remainder of the form to be completed. The browser quite often gets the form completely correct and even when it makes a mistake it is much quicker to change the mistakes than it is to use something like AutoComplete's drop-down lists. In Reply to #3: I think it’s safe to say that this is the exception rather than the rule and as such IE’s implementation of username/password management is deeply flawed. I have logons for many web sites/services and for none of them do I have more than one logon so I am always entering the same information. To be honest, the AutoComplete functionality in of itself isn’t very good when compared to Safari. In Safari it will completely populate a new form for you with past information as soon as you have entered a value it has seen before into one of the fields. Typically this is your first or full name and this triggers the remainder of the form to be completed. The browser quite often gets the form completely correct and even when it makes a mistake it is much quicker to change the mistakes than it is to use something like AutoComplete’s drop-down lists.

]]> by: Cyrris http://www.aelon.net/2006/04/ie7-beta-2-getting-better/#comment-1916 Fri, 05 May 2006 07:44:09 +0000 http://www.aelon.net/2006/04/ie7-beta-2-getting-better/#comment-1916 I think having it remembered in the autocomplete box is reasonable - I mean, what if you have two accounts somewhere which uses the same login page? The IE implementation makes management of that much easier. I recall when I used to play NukeZone, I had my player account and my moderator account, two different logins. Because of the way Firefox chose to do it, I used a completely different browser for when I logged in with my moderator account. I think having it remembered in the autocomplete box is reasonable - I mean, what if you have two accounts somewhere which uses the same login page? The IE implementation makes management of that much easier. I recall when I used to play NukeZone, I had my player account and my moderator account, two different logins. Because of the way Firefox chose to do it, I used a completely different browser for when I logged in with my moderator account.

]]> by: Kelmon http://www.aelon.net/2006/04/ie7-beta-2-getting-better/#comment-1915 Thu, 04 May 2006 09:07:48 +0000 http://www.aelon.net/2006/04/ie7-beta-2-getting-better/#comment-1915 Oh, one additional bitch about IE7 - why doesn't it implement a reasonable username/password management system? Just about every other browser will remember for you the username/password that you used on a form and will automatically populate that information for you when you revist that form. With IE7, IE still requires that you either manually enter the username or click on the username field and select the username from the autocomplete dialog before the password is populated. What's the point of remembering these details if they won't automatically be used? Oh, one additional bitch about IE7 - why doesn’t it implement a reasonable username/password management system? Just about every other browser will remember for you the username/password that you used on a form and will automatically populate that information for you when you revist that form. With IE7, IE still requires that you either manually enter the username or click on the username field and select the username from the autocomplete dialog before the password is populated. What’s the point of remembering these details if they won’t automatically be used?

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