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	<title>Comments on: Hot Coffee = Hot Water = Muppets</title>
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		<title>by: Conner999</title>
		<link>http://www.aelon.net/2005/07/hot-coffee-hot-water-muppets/#comment-1185</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 05:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I thing Rockstar left it in on purpose. They knew someone would discover it eventually and make it widely known. Look at the effect it has had! The spotlight of everone has been placed on their newest game, GTA:SA. FREE PUBLICITY! I've been in gaming stores, and heard people buying the game &quot;because it's AO now&quot;. No lie. AND NOW they are releasing ANOTHER version of SA which doesn't have the minigame... Guess what? They already have everyone's attention, and with this new &quot;now okay&quot; release, they are GARUNTEED sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thing Rockstar left it in on purpose. They knew someone would discover it eventually and make it widely known. Look at the effect it has had! The spotlight of everone has been placed on their newest game, GTA:SA. FREE PUBLICITY! I&#8217;ve been in gaming stores, and heard people buying the game &#8220;because it&#8217;s AO now&#8221;. No lie. AND NOW they are releasing ANOTHER version of SA which doesn&#8217;t have the minigame&#8230; Guess what? They already have everyone&#8217;s attention, and with this new &#8220;now okay&#8221; release, they are GARUNTEED sales.
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		<title>by: Damien Hailey</title>
		<link>http://www.aelon.net/2005/07/hot-coffee-hot-water-muppets/#comment-1078</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;OK, I can see how this argument works for the likes of de Vici and other artisists, particularly as I understand that canvas wasn’t cheap. However, de Vici didn’t have access to the Delete key or version control. Are we trying to suggest that the game wouldn’t have worked unless this code was kept but hidden? Please.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, that may have been the case.  

Programming a game isn't easy, especially when you take out entire sections of code.  It can cause bugs in parts of the code that seem entirely unrelated on the outside.  To completely remove the code would've meant having to re-test the entire game to make sure it didn't cause a bug or a crash somewhere else, and if any bugs were found, to fix those and test again until they get it right.  Depending on when the feature was axed, they may not have had time to do all that and still launch on time.  Both executives and gamers can be notoriously anal about launch delays.  

Or they could've just been lazy.  No way to tell that without an investigation, and we really don't want the events that would make that even a possibility.  

In either case, it was a lot easier, and less likely to cause bugs, to just remove the lines of code that triggered the minigame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>OK, I can see how this argument works for the likes of de Vici and other artisists, particularly as I understand that canvas wasn’t cheap. However, de Vici didn’t have access to the Delete key or version control. Are we trying to suggest that the game wouldn’t have worked unless this code was kept but hidden? Please.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, that may have been the case.  </p>
<p>Programming a game isn&#8217;t easy, especially when you take out entire sections of code.  It can cause bugs in parts of the code that seem entirely unrelated on the outside.  To completely remove the code would&#8217;ve meant having to re-test the entire game to make sure it didn&#8217;t cause a bug or a crash somewhere else, and if any bugs were found, to fix those and test again until they get it right.  Depending on when the feature was axed, they may not have had time to do all that and still launch on time.  Both executives and gamers can be notoriously anal about launch delays.  </p>
<p>Or they could&#8217;ve just been lazy.  No way to tell that without an investigation, and we really don&#8217;t want the events that would make that even a possibility.  </p>
<p>In either case, it was a lot easier, and less likely to cause bugs, to just remove the lines of code that triggered the minigame.
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		<title>by: Kelmon</title>
		<link>http://www.aelon.net/2005/07/hot-coffee-hot-water-muppets/#comment-1019</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oh, for pities sake.  So the Sims 2 contains naked people.  How the hell does that constitute an &quot;Adults Only&quot; rating?  If they were depicted shagging or something like that then I can understand why a higher ESRB rating would be sought, but the sight of a pixelated naked body is hardly either porn or corrupting in any way shape or form.

Seriously, I fail to understand some people.  The naked body is about as natural as you can get (even sex is but I'm prepared to go with the decisions on this part) yet you get these nutballs who won't be happy unless you almost deny that it exists by ensuring that all images of exposed flesh are removed from the public (or private) domain.  If they get their way then you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between the US and somewhere like Saudi Arabia.

Thankfully, in terms of The Sims 2, I can't see this one getting anywhere since anyone with half a brain should throw this request out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, for pities sake.  So the Sims 2 contains naked people.  How the hell does that constitute an &#8220;Adults Only&#8221; rating?  If they were depicted shagging or something like that then I can understand why a higher ESRB rating would be sought, but the sight of a pixelated naked body is hardly either porn or corrupting in any way shape or form.</p>
<p>Seriously, I fail to understand some people.  The naked body is about as natural as you can get (even sex is but I&#8217;m prepared to go with the decisions on this part) yet you get these nutballs who won&#8217;t be happy unless you almost deny that it exists by ensuring that all images of exposed flesh are removed from the public (or private) domain.  If they get their way then you&#8217;d be hard pressed to tell the difference between the US and somewhere like Saudi Arabia.</p>
<p>Thankfully, in terms of The Sims 2, I can&#8217;t see this one getting anywhere since anyone with half a brain should throw this request out.
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		<title>by: Cyrris</title>
		<link>http://www.aelon.net/2005/07/hot-coffee-hot-water-muppets/#comment-1015</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, if he's decided to go after someone as big as EA (who by the looks of things, have not danced around it like Rockstar - but have compeltely denied anything inappropriate being in there), he's got it coming for him.

I don't think going after one of the games that parents would probably see as one of the nicest games for children (no violence, no drugs, etc...) is going to help his cause any more than his crusade against Rockstar did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if he&#8217;s decided to go after someone as big as EA (who by the looks of things, have not danced around it like Rockstar - but have compeltely denied anything inappropriate being in there), he&#8217;s got it coming for him.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think going after one of the games that parents would probably see as one of the nicest games for children (no violence, no drugs, etc&#8230;) is going to help his cause any more than his crusade against Rockstar did.
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		<title>by: Holliday</title>
		<link>http://www.aelon.net/2005/07/hot-coffee-hot-water-muppets/#comment-1013</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 03:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>And now this: http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/22/news_6129609.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now this: <a href='http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/22/news_6129609.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/22/news_6129609.html</a>
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